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Poll, How Long Before the City of St. Louis Will Be Smoke-Free

You oppose, favor or are neutral about smoke-free legislation.  Regardless of your perspective on the merits of smoke-free laws, I want your opinion on when you think the City of St. Louis will be covered by smoke-free legislation. Here is the question:

Clayton will go smoke-free in July 2010.  Regardless of your view on such laws, at what point do you think the City of St. Louis will go smoke-free, if ever?

The possible answers are:

  • Before the end of 2009
  • January 2010
  • same time as Clayton – July 2010
  • January 2011
  • Only upon a statewide ban
  • January 2012
  • Never — not for City or Missouri
  • By January 2015
  • Unsure/Don’t Care

Remember this is not about when you want it passed or don’t want it passed. You may, for example, oppose smoke-free laws but think it will be in effect by January 2011.  Or if you are like me, you want these laws in effect yesterday, but realize it will not happen as quickly as you’d like.  So when you vote in the poll don’t select the answer you’d like to see but what you think will be the outcome.

You can find the poll in the sidebar to the right.

– Steve Patteron

 

Poll, Do You Care if the St. Louis Rams Leave St. Louis?

Chip Rosenbloom &  Lucia Rodrigue will be selling their 60% stake in the St. Louis Rams NFL team.  They inherited the controlling interest when their mom, Georgia Frontiere, passed away in January 2008.  The remaining 40% share is owned by Stan Kroenke, a Columbia Missouri native.

If a local/Missouri buyer is found the Rams are probably staying put for a while.  But if an out of town buyer takes a majority share it is likely they will seek to move the team when their lease in St. Louis expires.

My poll this week asks simply if you care.  You have only 3 choices:

  • I don’t want them to leave.
  • I do want them to leave.
  • I don’t care if they stay or go.

Many factors may play into your decision.  You may enjoy the games or you may not like football but think our civic pride depends on having an NFL team.  Or you may think a football team is too costly to the community.  Or you may just not care.  The poll is located in the upper right of the main page.

I personally don’t care if they stay or go.  Although if they leave I’ll probably find the views of loss as highly irritating.  If the Rams stay, no doubt I’ll find the probably dome replacement equally irritating.  Either way I think in 5 years we will face questions as a community: can we live without an NFL team or will we be willing to fund a new stadium?  There is no place downtown for a new stadium so location would be debated.

Stay or leave I see the existing Edward Jones Dome as empty and hopefully razed.  The four city blocks occupied by the current dome are needed to reconnect downtown to the near-North neighborhood.

I see the area shaded above as being rebuilt and filled in with active streets.  If we can get rid of I-70. after the new Mississippi River bridge opens, we have a chance to reconnect an even bigger portion of our city.  See Reconnecting St Louis to the Mississippi; Don’t Cover the Highway, 86 It. Maybe in five years we can get rid of the convention center as well — that would be six more blocks to be reclaimed and rebuilt. 

 

Poll, How Often Do You Shop at a Local Farmers’ Market?

The poll for this week has to do with how frequently you shop at your local farmers’ markets. I like to go a couple of times a month.   Soulard Farmers’ Market is usually one of those stops:

Above: St. Louis Soulard Farmers Market, May 2009
Above: St. Louis' Soulard Farmers' Market, May 2009

Of course I like new markets in addition to the classics like Soulard:

Above, Tower Grove Farmers Market, May 2006
Above, Tower Grove Farmer's Market, May 2006

When traveling I like to take in a city’s market.  Not for produce but for local flavor:

Above: Seattles Pike Place Market, March 2009
Above: Seattle's Pike Place Market, March 2009
Above: Torontos St. Lawrence Market, July 2006
Above: Toronto's St. Lawrence Market, July 2006
Above: Seattles Pike Place Market, October 2003
Above: Seattle's Pike Place Market, October 2003
Above: Vancouvers Granville Island, October 2003
Above: Vancouver's Granville Island, October 2003
Above: Philadelpias Reading Terminal Market
Above: Philadelpia's Reading Terminal Market, October 2001

I don’t see these markets putting the big grocery chains out of business anytime soon but when you’ve got a market with real farmers it is nice to buy your radishes from the person that pulled them out of the soil.  The poll is located in the top right corner of the main page.

 

Poll, What is Your Level of Trust for Paul McKee and his NorthSide Project

Thursday night Paul McKee gave a presentation on the project he has been acquiring property for and planning for 5 years.

Paul McKee on 5/21/09
Paul McKee on 5/21/09

The poll this week asks about your current level of trust with McKee and his company McEagle Properties.  I’ll have a post on my thoughts about the project on Tuesday morning.  For a preview tune in to KDHX 88.1FM at 7pm CST Monday May 25th.  For online options ckick here.

 

Poll, Do You Pay for Parking?

The poll this week comes to us from regular reader Jim “Jimmy Z” Zavist:

One major challenge to creating a more-urban St. Louis is reducing our dependence on the single-occupant vehicle, and one of the major challenges with reducing that dependence is the perception that we have “free” parking, pretty much any place we want to go.  Sure, places like downtown St. Louis and downtown Clayton have both parking meters and garages where you pay by the hour or the month, but there are many more places where parking is “free” – just drive in and find a spot.  Currently, the cheapest bus fare is $2.00, the cheapest Metrolink fare is $2.25 and a monthly Metro pass is now $68.00.  People who choose to drive themselves, over taking Metro, do so for two big reasons, comfort and convenience.  Metro will never to be able to beat that combination, but most people also pay attention to the bottom line.

Motorists pay approximately 50 cents per mile for the privilege of having a private vehicle.  That includes the purchase price, depreciation, maintenance, repairs, fuel, insurance, taxes and fees.  Constructing parking costs roughly $10,000 per space for a surface lot, $20,000 per space for structured parking and $30,000 for below-grade parking.  Tuff-Shed will build you a two-car garage, on your own land, for $8,000.  Annual maintenance is extra, for both the commercial lots and for your own garage.  And about the only places where you see the real price for parking on the residential side is if you live in a downtown loft, where you either need to buy a space in addition to your unit or you pay a monthly fee to park in a garage or lot.  In pretty much every other case, whether you rent or own, the garage or the off-street parking is viewed as just another amenity, not an expense, and/or on-street parking is something you learn to live with and share with your neighbors.

My observation is that few people will change how they use their automobiles and live their lives until we change how we value the convenience of the SOV.  I doubt we’ll be able to do much to get people to realize the true cost both “free” parking and their SOV’s, much like how our cell phones and internet access are now just another monthly bill.  But, for the sake of argument, let’s crunch the numbers.  Assume a 15-mile round trip for the daily commute and a 2-mile drive to the nearest Metro park-and-ride lot, along with 20 work days in a month and “free” parking at your place of work or education:

Option One – use Metro:  4 miles x 20 days x $0.50/mile = $40.00 + $68.00 Metro pass = $108.00

Option Two – drive yourself:  15 miles x 20 days x $0.50/mile = $150.00

Bottom line, it costs you $42.00 per month (or $2.10 per day) or means working an extra 10 or 15 minutes to come and go when you want, with whomever you want, and likely spending much less time “in transit”.  The math speaks for itself – unless you’re an idealist, a masochist, very poor or can’t drive, that extra couple of bucks a day seems like money well spent.  But that changes, drastically, as soon as you have to pay to park that SOV, at one or both ends:

Option Three – drive yourself:  15 miles x 20 days x $0.50/mile = $150.00 + $75.00 monthly parking = $225.00

Bottom line, the difference is now $117.00 per month (or $5.85 per day) and means working nearly an extra hour per day.  The cost-benefit analysis shifts significantly, especially if it means writing another check just for the privilege of parking all day.  What’s most problematic, especially around here, are the next steps.  For many employers, and even some employees, the choice is not transit, but to seek out cheaper or “free” parking – Metro, especially in its current condition, really only works well if you work in downtown St. Louis or Clayton, the Barnes medical complex or attend Wash. U. or UMSL.  As a region, we’re blessed (or cursed) with a lot of vacant and underutilized land and buildings.  There’s little incentive to build new, structured parking, and because of this, we get little significant new density, the kind that can support “good” public transit.

We end up repeating the suburban, autocentric model, even in the city, simply because there’s no economic reason to do otherwise.  Based on some very limited research, the highest land cost I was able to find downtown is $650/sq. ft. (and much is well below $200/sq. ft.)  Compare that to Manhattan, where land sells for more than $12,000/sq. ft.  We can talk urbanism, but until we embrace it, buy into it, and land values start to make surface parking look irrational, we’re going to continue to get more of the same.  And no, we can’t legislate our way out of this – we can’t just impose significantly higher real estate taxes on parking lots or reduce parking requirements.  If the economics make sense (and your competitors are or will be doing it), retailers, employers and residential developers will all continue to build the number of parking spaces they perceive their customers or employees demand.  This equation will only change, locally, when the cost of providing parking gets to be too great, for everyone, and that will only happen when land values increase, significantly.

The poll is in the upper right of the main page.  Thanks Jim for the interesting question.  For me my garage space at home is “free” but I pay to park at Saint Louis University.

 

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